2012August13 - Ubuntu Wiki

Source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012August13

What: Ubuntu Studio Contributors Meeting

When: Monday, 2012 August 13th - 14:00 UTC **To view the meeting date/time in your time zone, **click here.

Where: irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-meeting Contents

Agenda for Meeting

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Blueprints statuses

Master blueprint link

Master blueprint link

Action Items and Logs

ACTION: Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images (smartboyhw, 14:26:21) ACTION: : stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1 (smartboyhw, 14:33:05) ACTION: holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs (smartboyhw, 14:39:21) ACTION: holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits (smartboyhw, 14:40:24) ACTION: : Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio (smartboyhw, 14:45:41) ACTION: : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas (smartboyhw, 15:07:50)

Meeting ended at 15:10:28 UTC.

Votes

Action items

Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images
: stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1
holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs
holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits
: Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio
: stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas

Action items, by person

holstein
- holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs
- holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits
- : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas
Len-nb
- Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images
- holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs
- : Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio
- : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas
smartboyhw
- Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images
- : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas
stochastic
- : stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1
- : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas

People present (lines said)

smartboyhw (79)
stochastic (58)
Len-nb (58)
holstein (51)
meetingology (9)

Full Log

14:13:03 #startmeeting 14:13:03 Meeting started Mon Aug 13 14:13:03 2012 UTC. The chair is smartboyhw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:13:03 14:13:03 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:13:09 Okay, hi 14:13:24 hi 14:14:00 #topic Report on Ubuntu Studio 14:14:22 hi holstein 14:14:28 If anyone had anything to say about Ubuntu Studio development or progress, please o/ 14:14:34 stochastic: \o/ 14:14:44 o/ 14:15:01 holstein: PLease 14:15:36 holstein: Go ahead 14:16:51 i was just saying im present... if Len-nb has something, that would be relavant 14:17:26 Len-nb, you were saying about the commits that need pushing? 14:17:41 before FF hits 14:18:15 len-nb: Are you here? 14:18:16 -look -settings and the seeds/metas need to get done too. 14:18:36 takes time to type smartboyhw 14:18:40 Sorry 14:18:47 You haven't o/ed 14:18:58 o/ 14:19:19 Please, stochastic 14:19:22 I had thought there was another but it is for 12.04.1 and it looks it won't get used. 14:19:46 * stochastic doesn't understand the o/ system 14:19:59 * Len-nb too 14:20:12 o/ in first sight means that you are present 14:20:24 o/ now means you want to bring up a topic 14:20:58 .. 14:21:29 smartboyhw: re-link the meeting agenda, and lets go from there 14:21:54 stochastic, the seeds to meta stuff seems to not work acourding to micahg. He will work on it when time permits 14:22:01 we can see if Len-nb has time to report on progress today, and try and give ScottL time to show 14:22:38 michag only has 10 days before FF 14:22:41 Len-nb: is that in 12.10?.. how about 12.04.1 or whatever... is that all good? 14:22:53 So guys, do you think we can meet the 23/8 schedule of releasing Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1? 14:23:25 holstein, as far as I know we are not really doing anything for 04.1 14:23:53 Len-nb: hopefully, its just a matter of testing... and i think some folks were testing for US 14:24:04 i know the xubuntu team always helps US out 14:24:13 Yep, just finished testing 12.04.1 image for 64-bit 14:24:20 Reported on ISO QA Tracker 14:24:38 smartboyhw: cool.. thanks... i think thats all we'll have to do for 12.04 14:24:41 There is a -settings commited that could be used tha fixes minor menu details, but Scott doesn't seem enthused 14:25:19 I have done a few 12.04.1 i386 tests too 14:25:32 Len-nb does 32-bit, me does 64-bit 14:25:34 excellent, so I think we should make a motion to push for image testers for 12.04.1 just to make sure everything is all good. A call on the mailing list or something similar 14:25:47 second 14:25:49 Len-nb: You know astraljava took over coordination of testing? 14:25:51 i have done some unofficial FW tests with ailo 14:26:21 #action Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images 14:26:21 * meetingology Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images 14:26:22 FW = ? 14:26:24 yeah... just an email letting everyone know testing is needed... 14:26:29 Len-nb: firewire 14:26:41 Ah! right 14:26:52 holstein, how'd they turn out? 14:27:26 stochastic: so far so good... im actually still personally running 10.04 on my production machine, but i will upgrade to 12.04 when i have time 14:27:52 I still miss gcdmaster 14:27:53 Ok, I think busniess for 12.04.1 is sorted as much as we can for now 14:27:56 stochastic: seems better all the time actually.. especially without the -realtime kernel.. i find that less and less manditory 14:28:02 Len-nb: me too :/ 14:28:17 or should we discuss release announcement for 12.04.1? Is one needed? 14:28:45 stochastic, on the website when released 14:28:51 stochastic: i think someone should mention it to scottL, and one of us can offer to help make on if needed 14:28:54 stochastic: Let us write an email to users list 14:29:48 The main thing with 12.04.1 is it save upgrading about 200 packages at install for late adopters 14:29:52 someone with knowledge of the changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1 needs to draft a couple explanation notes 14:30:22 stochastic: maybe we could just look at the main ubuntu ones and copy/edit a bit 14:30:24 Question: Who has that knowledge? 14:30:32 or xubuntu... 14:30:49 ok 14:30:49 holstein, you have it right 14:31:25 i bet the xubuntu ones are pretty much exactly ours... since we didnt change any studio specific stuff 14:31:52 So we can transfer Xubuntu to Ubuntu Studio! 14:31:59 I am not if they made changes either, vanilla may cover it. 14:32:13 I'll volunteer to draft one up for us and post it. 14:32:23 stochastic: I agree 14:32:31 the big thing is xfce4.10 which 12.10 14:33:05 #action: stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1 14:33:05 * meetingology : stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1 14:34:10 so on to 12.10 chat, any big things need squishing before FF? let's get at least one action item hammered out for 12.10 14:34:46 firefox branding, publishing meta 14:35:20 Hmm, the people I need to ask are not here 14:35:21 holstein, do you have upload privileges? 14:36:19 stochastic: to the site? i dont think so... but ScottL does ...i havnet checked to see if my old creds work on the official site 14:36:28 stochastic: i'll help sort that out though... 14:36:42 holstein: Thanks 14:36:44 holstein, not to the site, I have those, I mean to the repos? 14:37:13 to help push commits through 14:37:14 stochastic: nah... that would be scott or one of the motu's... i think we can just ask someone for help 14:37:35 persia is usually pretty good at helping out, also TheMuso 14:38:01 Who should we select? 14:38:07 Len-nb, can you talk to those gents to see if you can get the commits published? 14:38:14 yup... if we put the word out, i think we can get a hand.. let me know if you need help tracking someone down stochastic 14:38:21 I will try that 14:38:33 excellent, sounds like an action item 14:38:47 So what should we write for action? 14:39:21 #action holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs 14:39:21 * meetingology holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs 14:39:40 Anyone saw the action item? So many people quit 14:39:53 smartboyhw: netsplit 14:40:03 please post the action item again 14:40:24 #action holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits 14:40:24 * meetingology holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits 14:40:54 Is this one OK? 14:40:56 The firefox branding, where are we on that, is a fix committed? 14:41:04 smartboyhw, looks great 14:41:12 Thanks, stochastic 14:41:19 I need to find out if I should do more or less. 14:41:52 so far I have home page. but that will have to come off. 14:42:01 I have bookmarked our site 14:42:16 Len-nb: Nice job! 14:42:19 but the blueprints seem to suggest more bookmarks 14:42:39 baby steps are still good steps 14:43:05 Maybe we can bookmark Wiki pages and how to contribute? 14:43:10 I'd be happy to chat after the meeting with you Len about the intricacies of the branding? 14:43:30 I can commit what I have or add more. xchat is stuck right now 14:43:45 Uh oh, Len-nb. 14:44:26 I may just add a menu item that starts xchat on #ubuntustudio 14:44:37 #ubuntustudio-devel also 14:44:42 No 14:44:48 OK 14:45:06 dev is for active volunteers 14:45:20 Ok, so only #ubuntustudio 14:45:23 This would be right below the help item 14:45:41 #action: Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio 14:45:41 * meetingology : Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio 14:45:42 cool 14:45:59 I think it will use the studio logo 14:46:23 It should 14:47:03 ok 14:47:19 what other major projects are we looking at in the next 10 days? 14:47:31 Major...Hmm... 14:47:37 There is a new publishing meta. 14:47:38 or minor 14:48:01 have all the packages been screened/approved or is it just a rough draft still? 14:48:10 I was just looking at our web page and it suggests we are shipping libreoffice 14:48:25 Len-nb: I agree we should ship it. 14:48:34 I have not added office to the meta 14:48:42 So... ? 14:48:47 It is quite large 14:48:49 i could argue we shouldnt, but im with you guys 14:49:16 its a full featured suite of tools that does not directly address anything ubuntustudio is about 14:49:16 So, action item on adding LibreOffice to Ubuutu Studio? 14:49:18 The is an icon for extra software that maks it easy to load 14:49:40 no ... or not yet 14:49:59 OK, so maybe we can ship it in future 12.10 releases... 14:50:09 Len-nb is there a package list I can take a look at? 14:50:15 I am thinking maybe the website should be changed 14:50:24 which website page? 14:50:31 ubuntustudio.org? 14:50:32 feature tour 14:50:42 publishing 14:50:52 OK 14:50:57 i remember arguing about libreoffice though... 14:51:10 So no LibreOffice or so? 14:51:11 seems like it might be that it is supposed to be there 14:51:26 I'll ask scott 14:51:27 i would run it by ScottL first... 14:51:31 Ok 14:51:41 i will go with whatever you guys go with... 14:51:41 So what's the action item for this? 14:51:50 Len-nb, right at the top of the feature tour page it reads "Allthough not everything is preinstalled, powerful tools for book publishing are at your fingertips, installable from the repo using Software Center." 14:51:53 The other app mentioned is calibre 14:52:22 OK 14:52:26 Ok, I will not worry about office then 14:52:33 So, ignore LibreOffice? 14:52:34 I don't think Calibre or LibreOffice should be shipped 14:52:35 personally 14:52:51 Action Item: Ignore office software? 14:53:16 is there a publishing meta that is being created for this release? 14:53:20 Right. Ok, I think we worked out the workflow pretty good on the list 14:53:26 It is commited 14:53:42 Photography has been split and commited 14:53:47 ok 14:53:59 so two new metas 14:54:06 GREAT! 14:54:12 so this falls under the pushing commits through subject that we already covered with the action item 14:54:19 14:54:26 Action Item? 14:54:30 Yup. 14:54:38 What should we write? 14:54:55 asking scottL about libreoffice 14:55:29 smartboyhw, we already covered this meetingology> ACTION: holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs 14:55:36 scott and ailo also have some workflow stuff they are working on for the bottom panel 14:55:36 stochastic: i could go there too.. i think they dont fit in.. but i remember someone convincing me on the issue of publishing 14:55:40 Oh, that one 14:56:12 Anything more to say apart from this? 14:57:27 Anyone have more to say? 14:57:36 I'd like to say that I think the overall direction of graphics and publishing should be given someone to take the reigns. Maybe not now. 14:58:04 maybe there already is 14:58:09 stochastic: you mean, a team member who is into grahpis? 14:58:14 graphics 14:58:29 On stochastic's question, any volunteers? 14:58:32 or has a solid concept of where US should help publishers and graphic artists 14:58:54 i think we have a lot of audio folks, and thats great, but it would be nice to cultivate a person or 2 for graphics and/or video 14:59:10 is troy_s ever around anymore? 14:59:12 someone to come here like we are and say what works and what doesnt and why 14:59:15 Who will do graphics and video publishing? 14:59:20 stochastic: havent seen him in a while 14:59:22 or Corey? 14:59:31 Having the apps to make US interesting to these people may come first 14:59:39 Len-nb: I agree 14:59:41 agreed 14:59:50 i think someone will materialize... ScottL does a lot of video actually 15:00:05 I can help slightly in the future with this planning 15:00:12 maybe not in the next 10 days 15:00:19 Maybe we should send a request along teh dev mail list for volunteers of helping graphics and video 15:00:38 stochastic: i think that email needs to be well thought out 15:00:41 Been done... in various ways 15:00:45 some folks dont come to the IRC... 15:00:58 stochastic: that was for smartboyhw 15:01:48 That e-mail will be a job advertisement:) 15:01:55 just be careful how you "ask" for help... we dont need more differing opinions, and folks doing work that we cant include.. we really need one person to "take the reigns" as stochastic suggested 15:01:57 Part of the reason I am hesitant to add much more SW right now, is that I would like to see how big The ISO 15:02:04 OK 15:02:14 Len-nb: Make it under 2GB 15:02:26 Too late already 15:02:33 its over 2 now... and we have lots of "why dont we have this" emails on the list 15:02:44 Len-nb let's not add too much on this release, just get the ball moving 15:02:48 Make it under 4.7GiB (DVD capacity) 15:02:58 stochastic: +1 15:03:12 swsure, but folks with limited bandwidth complain 15:03:18 smartboyhw: ^ 15:03:30 you literally cant please everyone 15:03:33 I am thinking If the seeds/metas get updated I will be able to see where we are 15:04:17 i like the workflows idea.. a nice comfortable default, and you can click on "publishing" and install whatever is designated automagically 15:04:30 scott was talking about adding kdenlive... but I am not sure... and knowing how big we are now would help 15:04:56 yeah, we are a small team 15:05:00 holstein, that needs a ubiquity plugin 15:05:01 okay, for an action item, how about a graphics/publishing sub-committee is formed to polish the current release and shape the 13.04 release plan for these metas 15:05:25 Len-nb: could be after the install, for all i care 15:05:43 stochastic: I agree. Everyone: Agree? 15:05:58 who will be in that sub-commitee? 15:06:05 yeah.. i think thats a great goal 15:06:09 I'll join 15:06:09 There is the live experience to look at 15:06:16 I'll join too 15:06:16 gives some time for someone to step up 15:06:33 I would use the list to set it up 15:06:35 Who's the chair of the sub-committee for now? 15:07:08 we'll sort out the members later, including the chair, we just need to have someone willing to organize the people interested 15:07:17 OK, so action item: 15:07:50 #action : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas 15:07:50 * meetingology : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas 15:07:57 i think any of us can help shape that 15:08:02 Yep 15:08:58 So, anymore to say, guys? 15:09:26 I think we covered most things that need attention over the near future 15:09:44 and the meeting is starting to hit the 60min mark 15:09:56 done 15:10:00 Good, so end meeting, everyone? o/ to agree 15:10:07 o? 15:10:09 o/ 15:10:12 o/ 15:10:28 #endmeeting

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14:13:03 Meeting started Mon Aug 13 14:13:03 2012 UTC. The chair is smartboyhw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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14:13:09 Okay, hi

14:13:24 hi

14:14:00 #topic Report on Ubuntu Studio

14:14:22 hi holstein

14:14:28 If anyone had anything to say about Ubuntu Studio development or progress, please o/

14:14:34 stochastic: \o/

14:14:44 o/

14:15:01 holstein: PLease

14:15:36 holstein: Go ahead

14:16:51 i was just saying im present... if Len-nb has something, that would be relavant

14:17:26 Len-nb, you were saying about the commits that need pushing?

14:17:41 before FF hits

14:18:15 len-nb: Are you here?

14:18:16 -look -settings and the seeds/metas need to get done too.

14:18:36 takes time to type smartboyhw

14:18:40 Sorry

14:18:47 You haven't o/ed

14:18:58 o/

14:19:19 Please, stochastic

14:19:22 I had thought there was another but it is for 12.04.1 and it looks it won't get used. 14:19:46 * stochastic doesn't understand the o/ system 14:19:59 * Len-nb too

14:20:12 o/ in first sight means that you are present

14:20:24 o/ now means you want to bring up a topic

14:20:58 ..

14:21:29 smartboyhw: re-link the meeting agenda, and lets go from there

14:21:54 stochastic, the seeds to meta stuff seems to not work acourding to micahg. He will work on it when time permits

14:22:01 we can see if Len-nb has time to report on progress today, and try and give ScottL time to show

14:22:38 michag only has 10 days before FF

14:22:41 Len-nb: is that in 12.10?.. how about 12.04.1 or whatever... is that all good?

14:22:53 So guys, do you think we can meet the 23/8 schedule of releasing Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1?

14:23:25 holstein, as far as I know we are not really doing anything for 04.1

14:23:53 Len-nb: hopefully, its just a matter of testing... and i think some folks were testing for US

14:24:04 i know the xubuntu team always helps US out

14:24:13 Yep, just finished testing 12.04.1 image for 64-bit

14:24:20 Reported on ISO QA Tracker

14:24:38 smartboyhw: cool.. thanks... i think thats all we'll have to do for 12.04

14:24:41 There is a -settings commited that could be used tha fixes minor menu details, but Scott doesn't seem enthused

14:25:19 I have done a few 12.04.1 i386 tests too

14:25:32 Len-nb does 32-bit, me does 64-bit

14:25:34 excellent, so I think we should make a motion to push for image testers for 12.04.1 just to make sure everything is all good. A call on the mailing list or something similar

14:25:47 second

14:25:49 Len-nb: You know astraljava took over coordination of testing?

14:25:51 i have done some unofficial FW tests with ailo

14:26:21 #action Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images 14:26:21 * meetingology Len-nb and smartboyhw to find more people to test 12.04.1 daily images

14:26:22 FW = ?

14:26:24 yeah... just an email letting everyone know testing is needed...

14:26:29 Len-nb: firewire

14:26:41 Ah! right

14:26:52 holstein, how'd they turn out?

14:27:26 stochastic: so far so good... im actually still personally running 10.04 on my production machine, but i will upgrade to 12.04 when i have time

14:27:52 I still miss gcdmaster

14:27:53 Ok, I think busniess for 12.04.1 is sorted as much as we can for now

14:27:56 stochastic: seems better all the time actually.. especially without the *-realtime kernel.. i find that less and less manditory

14:28:02 Len-nb: me too :/

14:28:17 or should we discuss release announcement for 12.04.1? Is one needed?

14:28:45 stochastic, on the website when released

14:28:51 stochastic: i think someone should mention it to scottL, and one of us can offer to help make on if needed

14:28:54 stochastic: Let us write an email to users list

14:29:48 The main thing with 12.04.1 is it save upgrading about 200 packages at install for late adopters

14:29:52 someone with knowledge of the changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1 needs to draft a couple explanation notes

14:30:22 stochastic: maybe we could just look at the main ubuntu ones and copy/edit a bit

14:30:24 Question: Who has that knowledge?

14:30:32 or xubuntu...

14:30:49 ok

14:30:49 holstein, you have it right

14:31:25 i bet the xubuntu ones are pretty much exactly ours... since we didnt change any studio specific stuff

14:31:52 So we can transfer Xubuntu to Ubuntu Studio!

14:31:59 I am not if they made changes either, vanilla may cover it.

14:32:13 I'll volunteer to draft one up for us and post it.

14:32:23 stochastic: I agree

14:32:31 the big thing is xfce4.10 which 12.10

14:33:05 #action: stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1 14:33:05 * meetingology : stochastic to write a draft for changes between 12.04 and 12.04.1

14:34:10 so on to 12.10 chat, any big things need squishing before FF? let's get at least one action item hammered out for 12.10

14:34:46 firefox branding, publishing meta

14:35:20 Hmm, the people I need to ask are not here

14:35:21 holstein, do you have upload privileges?

14:36:19 stochastic: to the site? i dont think so... but ScottL does ...i havnet checked to see if my old creds work on the official site

14:36:28 stochastic: i'll help sort that out though...

14:36:42 holstein: Thanks

14:36:44 holstein, not to the site, I have those, I mean to the repos?

14:37:13 to help push commits through

14:37:14 stochastic: nah... that would be scott or one of the motu's... i think we can just ask someone for help

14:37:35 persia is usually pretty good at helping out, also TheMuso

14:38:01 Who should we select?

14:38:07 Len-nb, can you talk to those gents to see if you can get the commits published?

14:38:14 yup... if we put the word out, i think we can get a hand.. let me know if you need help tracking someone down stochastic

14:38:21 I will try that

14:38:33 excellent, sounds like an action item

14:38:47 So what should we write for action?

14:39:21 #action holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs 14:39:21 * meetingology holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs

14:39:40 Anyone saw the action item? So many people quit

14:39:53 smartboyhw: netsplit

14:40:03 please post the action item again

14:40:24 #action holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits 14:40:24 * meetingology holstein and Len-dt to find someone for pushing commits

14:40:54 Is this one OK?

14:40:56 The firefox branding, where are we on that, is a fix committed?

14:41:04 smartboyhw, looks great

14:41:12 Thanks, stochastic

14:41:19 I need to find out if I should do more or less.

14:41:52 so far I have home page. but that will have to come off.

14:42:01 I have bookmarked our site

14:42:16 Len-nb: Nice job!

14:42:19 but the blueprints seem to suggest more bookmarks

14:42:39 baby steps are still good steps Smile :)

14:43:05 Maybe we can bookmark Wiki pages and how to contribute?

14:43:10 I'd be happy to chat after the meeting with you Len about the intricacies of the branding?

14:43:30 I can commit what I have or add more. xchat is stuck right now

14:43:45 Uh oh, Len-nb.

14:44:26 I may just add a menu item that starts xchat on #ubuntustudio

14:44:37 #ubuntustudio-devel also

14:44:42 No

14:44:48 OK

14:45:06 dev is for active volunteers

14:45:20 Ok, so only #ubuntustudio

14:45:23 This would be right below the help item

14:45:41 #action: Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio 14:45:41 * meetingology : Len-nb to add menu item on xchat that starts #ubuntustudio

14:45:42 cool

14:45:59 I think it will use the studio logo

14:46:23 It should

14:47:03 ok

14:47:19 what other major projects are we looking at in the next 10 days?

14:47:31 Major...Hmm...

14:47:37 There is a new publishing meta.

14:47:38 or minor

14:48:01 have all the packages been screened/approved or is it just a rough draft still?

14:48:10 I was just looking at our web page and it suggests we are shipping libreoffice

14:48:25 Len-nb: I agree we should ship it.

14:48:34 I have not added office to the meta

14:48:42 So... ?

14:48:47 It is quite large

14:48:49 i could argue we shouldnt, but im with you guys

14:49:16 its a full featured suite of tools that does not directly address anything ubuntustudio is about

14:49:16 So, action item on adding LibreOffice to Ubuutu Studio?

14:49:18 The is an icon for extra software that maks it easy to load

14:49:40 no ... or not yet

14:49:59 OK, so maybe we can ship it in future 12.10 releases...

14:50:09 Len-nb is there a package list I can take a look at?

14:50:15 I am thinking maybe the website should be changed

14:50:24 which website page?

14:50:31 ubuntustudio.org?

14:50:32 feature tour

14:50:42 publishing

14:50:52 OK

14:50:57 i remember arguing about libreoffice though...

14:51:10 So no LibreOffice or so?

14:51:11 seems like it might be that it is supposed to be there

14:51:26 I'll ask scott

14:51:27 i would run it by ScottL first...

14:51:31 Ok

14:51:41 i will go with whatever you guys go with...

14:51:41 So what's the action item for this?

14:51:50 Len-nb, right at the top of the feature tour page it reads "Allthough not everything is preinstalled, powerful tools for book publishing are at your fingertips, installable from the repo using Software Center."

14:51:53 The other app mentioned is calibre

14:52:22 OK

14:52:26 Ok, I will not worry about office then

14:52:33 So, ignore LibreOffice?

14:52:34 I don't think Calibre or LibreOffice should be shipped

14:52:35 personally

14:52:51 Action Item: Ignore office software?

14:53:16 is there a publishing meta that is being created for this release?

14:53:20 Right. Ok, I think we worked out the workflow pretty good on the list

14:53:26 It is commited

14:53:42 Photography has been split and commited

14:53:47 ok

14:53:59 so two new metas

14:54:06 GREAT!

14:54:12 so this falls under the pushing commits through subject that we already covered with the action item

14:54:19 Smile :)

14:54:26 Action Item?

14:54:30 Yup.

14:54:38 What should we write?

14:54:55 asking scottL about libreoffice

14:55:29 smartboyhw, we already covered this meetingology> ACTION: holstein and Len-nb to find someone to publishing committs

14:55:36 scott and ailo also have some workflow stuff they are working on for the bottom panel

14:55:36 stochastic: i could go there too.. i think they dont fit in.. but i remember someone convincing me on the issue of publishing

14:55:40 Oh, that one

14:56:12 Anything more to say apart from this?

14:57:27 Anyone have more to say?

14:57:36 I'd like to say that I think the overall direction of graphics and publishing should be given someone to take the reigns. Maybe not now.

14:58:04 maybe there already is

14:58:09 stochastic: you mean, a team member who is into grahpis?

14:58:14 graphics*

14:58:29 On stochastic's question, any volunteers?

14:58:32 or has a solid concept of where US should help publishers and graphic artists

14:58:54 i think we have a lot of audio folks, and thats great, but it would be nice to cultivate a person or 2 for graphics and/or video

14:59:10 is troy_s ever around anymore?

14:59:12 someone to come here like we are and say what works and what doesnt and why

14:59:15 Who will do graphics and video publishing?

14:59:20 stochastic: havent seen him in a while

14:59:22 or Corey?

14:59:31 Having the apps to make US interesting to these people may come first

14:59:39 Len-nb: I agree

14:59:41 agreed

14:59:50 i think someone will materialize... ScottL does a lot of video actually

15:00:05 I can help slightly in the future with this planning

15:00:12 maybe not in the next 10 days

15:00:19 Maybe we should send a request along teh dev mail list for volunteers of helping graphics and video

15:00:38 stochastic: i think that email needs to be well thought out

15:00:41 Been done... in various ways

15:00:45 some folks dont come to the IRC...

15:00:58 stochastic: that was for smartboyhw

15:01:48 That e-mail will be a job advertisement:)

15:01:55 just be careful how you "ask" for help... we dont need more differing opinions, and folks doing work that we cant include.. we really need one person to "take the reigns" as stochastic suggested

15:01:57 Part of the reason I am hesitant to add much more SW right now, is that I would like to see how big The ISO

15:02:04 OK

15:02:14 Len-nb: Make it under 2GB

15:02:26 Too late already

15:02:33 its over 2 now... and we have lots of "why dont we have this" emails on the list

15:02:44 Len-nb let's not add too much on this release, just get the ball moving

15:02:48 Make it under 4.7GiB (DVD capacity)

15:02:58 stochastic: +1

15:03:12 swsure, but folks with limited bandwidth complain

15:03:18 smartboyhw: ^

15:03:30 you literally cant please everyone

15:03:33 I am thinking If the seeds/metas get updated I will be able to see where we are

15:04:17 i like the workflows idea.. a nice comfortable default, and you can click on "publishing" and install whatever is designated automagically

15:04:30 scott was talking about adding kdenlive... but I am not sure... and knowing how big we are now would help

15:04:56 yeah, we are a small team

15:05:00 holstein, that needs a ubiquity plugin

15:05:01 okay, for an action item, how about a graphics/publishing sub-committee is formed to polish the current release and shape the 13.04 release plan for these metas

15:05:25 Len-nb: could be after the install, for all i care

15:05:43 stochastic: I agree. Everyone: Agree?

15:05:58 who will be in that sub-commitee?

15:06:05 yeah.. i think thats a great goal

15:06:09 I'll join

15:06:09 There is the live experience to look at

15:06:16 I'll join too

15:06:16 gives some time for someone to step up

15:06:33 I would use the list to set it up

15:06:35 Who's the chair of the sub-committee for now?

15:07:08 we'll sort out the members later, including the chair, we just need to have someone willing to organize the people interested

15:07:17 OK, so action item:

15:07:50 #action : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas 15:07:50 * meetingology : stochastic and Len-nb and holstein and smartboyhw to set up a graphics and publishing sub-committee for teh abovementioned metas

15:07:57 i think any of us can help shape that

15:08:02 Yep

15:08:58 So, anymore to say, guys?

15:09:26 I think we covered most things that need attention over the near future

15:09:44 and the meeting is starting to hit the 60min mark

15:09:56 done

15:10:00 Good, so end meeting, everyone? o/ to agree

15:10:07 o?

15:10:09 o/

15:10:12 o/

15:10:28 #endmeeting

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